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Prabhupāda: ...form a committee from education in your...


Hayagrīva: They have to be taught reading, and for this they have primers.
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Prabhupāda: Primary readings.


Hayagrīva: And this is all right to use?
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Prabhupāda: Because we haven't got any books yet.


Hayagrīva: What about taking the primers and changing the names of the people to people like Satyabhāmā and give them spiritual names. Would that be nice?
(Discussion about New Vrindaban Gurukula)


Prabhupāda: Yes.


Pradyumna: Hari-nāmāmṛtam.  
'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . form a committee from education in your . . .


Prabhupāda: Yes.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Erm, they have to be taught reading, and for this they have primers.


Hayagrīva: All right. Arithmetic should be taught?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Primary readings.


Prabhupāda: Arithmetic? Yes. That is necessary.
'''Hayagrīva:''' And this is all right to use?


Hayagrīva: What about any history? World history or American history or American literature or English literature?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Because we haven't got any books such.


Prabhupāda: American history. That's all. They are Americans. They should learn American history. Don't bother much.
'''Hayagrīva:''' What about taking the primers and changing the names of the people to people like Satyabhāmā and give them spiritual names. Would that be nice?


Hayagrīva: Any Indian history?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.


Prabhupāda: Indian history, that... Bhāgavata is all right.
'''Devotee:''' ''Hari-nāmāmṛtam''.


Hayagrīva: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.


Prabhupāda: That Kurukṣetra battle. That's all. And there are many other stories in the Bhāgavatam. They are all historical.
'''Hayagrīva:''' All right. Arithmetic should be taught?


Hayagrīva: What about literatures? When they get older, of course. This would be for when they are older.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Arithmetic? Yes. That is necessary.


Prabhupāda: Literature, we have got so many. Bhagavad-gītā, Śrīmad-Bhāgavata.
'''Hayagrīva:''' What about any history? World history or American history, or American literature or English literature?


Hayagrīva: Any English literature, American literature, English literature?
'''Prabhupāda:''' American history. That's all. They are Americans. They should learn American history. Don't bother much.


Prabhupāda: Yes. Any... Some of the English literature, recognized.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Any Indian history?


Hayagrīva: Any of the sciences at all?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Indian history that . . . ''Bhāgavata'' is all right.


Prabhupāda: I don't think we require any science. What do you think?
'''Hayagrīva:''' ''Bhāgavata'' . . . ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''?


Hayagrīva: Biology?
'''Prabhupāda:''' That Kurukṣetra battle. That's all. And there are many other stories in the ''Bhāgavatam''. They are all historical.


Kīrtanānanda: No.
'''Hayagrīva:''' What about literatures? When they get older, of course. This would be for when they are older.


Hayagrīva: Geology, zoology, astronomy.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Literature, we have got so many. ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavata''.


Prabhupāda: Biology, you can teach them the evolution of the species from Padma-Purāṇa, 8,400,000's, one after another. Yes.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Any English literature, American literature, English literature?


Hayagrīva: What about astronomy? Anything like that? No. Okay. Any animal husbandry they can learn out there. Animal husbandry they will learn...
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Any . . . some of the English literature, recognized.


Prabhupāda: That they will learn practically, cow keeping.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Any of the sciences at all?


Hayagrīva: At what age should they be taught to cook prasādam?  
'''Prabhupāda:''' I don't think we require any science. What do you think?


Prabhupāda: Yes.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Biology?


Hayagrīva: At what age should they be taught to cook?
'''Kīrtanānanda:''' No.


Prabhupāda: After twelve years.
'''Hayagrīva:''' No. Geology, zoology, astronomy.


Hayagrīva: After twelve. And you think they can be taught typing, for instance? A skill like typing and how to use typewriter?
'''Prabhupāda:''' Biology, you can teach them the evolution of the species from ''Padma-Purāṇa'', 8,400,000's, one after another. Yes.


Prabhupāda: Does it require all? Well, just this knowledge is required.
'''Hayagrīva:''' What about astronomy? Anything like that? No. Okay. Any animal husbandry they can learn out there. Animal husbandry they will learn . . .


Kīrtanānanda: Whatever is practical.
'''Prabhupāda:''' That they will learn practically, cow-keeping.


Hayagrīva: And the only other... Oh, how old should they be before Deity worship, they do Deity worship?
'''Hayagrīva:''' At what age should they be taught to cook ''prasādam''?


Prabhupāda: Just after ten years.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.


Hayagrīva: After ten years? Then they can do Deity worship?
'''Hayagrīva:''' At what age should they be taught to cook?


Prabhupāda: Yes.
'''Prabhupāda:''' After twelve years.


Hayagrīva: That's Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa Deity worship.
'''Hayagrīva:''' After twelve. And you think they can be taught typing, for instance? A skill like typing and how to use a typewriter?


Prabhupāda: Any Deity. Or worship Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Does it require all? Well, just this knowledge is required.


Hayagrīva: Well, the boys are keeping Deities now, aren't they?
'''Kīrtanānanda:''' Whatever is practical.


Kīrtanānanda: Yes.
'''Hayagrīva:''' And the only other . . . oh, how old should they be before Deity worship, they do Deity worship?


Hayagrīva: He said after ten.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Just after ten years.


Prabhupāda: No, they are keeping as plaything now, not they are regularly worshiping.
'''Hayagrīva:''' After ten years? Then they can do Deity worship?


Kīrtanānanda: He means in the temple they can officiate, do ārati and things...
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.


Prabhupāda: Yes.
'''Hayagrīva:''' That's Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa Deity worship.


Hayagrīva: Oh, I see. So from just very small they can keep Deities.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Any Deity. Or worship Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.


Kīrtanānanda: Yes. As small as they want to.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Well, the boys are keeping Deities now, aren't they?


Hayagrīva: And you suggested... I have it written down somewhere. You suggested a certain number of hours for their school, about five hours or four hours a day.
'''Kīrtanānanda:''' Yes.


Prabhupāda: Three hours in the morning, two hours in the evening. That's all. Not at a stretch. Morning, evening. And in the noon they should take their prasādam, take little rest.
'''Hayagrīva:''' He said after ten.


Hayagrīva: Because our literatures are a little difficult to read...
'''Prabhupāda:''' No, they are keeping as plaything now, not they are regularly worshiping.


Prabhupāda: Yes. You have to make some suitable literature.
'''Kīrtanānanda:''' He means in the temple they can officiate, do ''ārati'' and things . . .


Hayagrīva: Something... When they can do that, then they can read Bhagavad-gītā. They try a little, but it's very difficult to begin.
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.


Prabhupāda: No.
'''Hayagrīva:''' Oh, I see. So from just very small they can keep Deities.


Hayagrīva: They cannot begin.
'''Kīrtanānanda:''' Yes. As small as they want to.


Prabhupāda: Yes. (end)
'''Hayagrīva:''' And you suggested . . . I have it written down somewhere. You suggested a certain number of hours for their school, about five hours or four hours a day, or . . .


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'''Prabhupāda:''' Three hours in the morning, two hours in the evening. That's all. Not at a stretch. Morning, evening. And in the noon they should take their ''prasādam'', take little rest.
 
'''Hayagrīva:''' Because our literatures are a little difficult to read, see they have to . . .
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. You have to make some suitable literature.
 
'''Hayagrīva:''' Something . . . when they can do that, then they can read ''Bhagavad-gītā''. They try a little, but it's very difficult to begin.
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' No.
 
'''Hayagrīva:''' They cannot begin.
 
'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. (break) (end)

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His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada



691224D2-BOSTON - December 24, 1969 - 04:37 Minutes



(Discussion about New Vrindaban Gurukula)


Prabhupāda: . . . form a committee from education in your . . .

Hayagrīva: Erm, they have to be taught reading, and for this they have primers.

Prabhupāda: Primary readings.

Hayagrīva: And this is all right to use?

Prabhupāda: Because we haven't got any books such.

Hayagrīva: What about taking the primers and changing the names of the people to people like Satyabhāmā and give them spiritual names. Would that be nice?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Devotee: Hari-nāmāmṛtam.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Hayagrīva: All right. Arithmetic should be taught?

Prabhupāda: Arithmetic? Yes. That is necessary.

Hayagrīva: What about any history? World history or American history, or American literature or English literature?

Prabhupāda: American history. That's all. They are Americans. They should learn American history. Don't bother much.

Hayagrīva: Any Indian history?

Prabhupāda: Indian history that . . . Bhāgavata is all right.

Hayagrīva: Bhāgavata . . . Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam?

Prabhupāda: That Kurukṣetra battle. That's all. And there are many other stories in the Bhāgavatam. They are all historical.

Hayagrīva: What about literatures? When they get older, of course. This would be for when they are older.

Prabhupāda: Literature, we have got so many. Bhagavad-gītā, Śrīmad-Bhāgavata.

Hayagrīva: Any English literature, American literature, English literature?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Any . . . some of the English literature, recognized.

Hayagrīva: Any of the sciences at all?

Prabhupāda: I don't think we require any science. What do you think?

Hayagrīva: Biology?

Kīrtanānanda: No.

Hayagrīva: No. Geology, zoology, astronomy.

Prabhupāda: Biology, you can teach them the evolution of the species from Padma-Purāṇa, 8,400,000's, one after another. Yes.

Hayagrīva: What about astronomy? Anything like that? No. Okay. Any animal husbandry they can learn out there. Animal husbandry they will learn . . .

Prabhupāda: That they will learn practically, cow-keeping.

Hayagrīva: At what age should they be taught to cook prasādam?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Hayagrīva: At what age should they be taught to cook?

Prabhupāda: After twelve years.

Hayagrīva: After twelve. And you think they can be taught typing, for instance? A skill like typing and how to use a typewriter?

Prabhupāda: Does it require all? Well, just this knowledge is required.

Kīrtanānanda: Whatever is practical.

Hayagrīva: And the only other . . . oh, how old should they be before Deity worship, they do Deity worship?

Prabhupāda: Just after ten years.

Hayagrīva: After ten years? Then they can do Deity worship?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Hayagrīva: That's Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa Deity worship.

Prabhupāda: Any Deity. Or worship Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.

Hayagrīva: Well, the boys are keeping Deities now, aren't they?

Kīrtanānanda: Yes.

Hayagrīva: He said after ten.

Prabhupāda: No, they are keeping as plaything now, not they are regularly worshiping.

Kīrtanānanda: He means in the temple they can officiate, do ārati and things . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Hayagrīva: Oh, I see. So from just very small they can keep Deities.

Kīrtanānanda: Yes. As small as they want to.

Hayagrīva: And you suggested . . . I have it written down somewhere. You suggested a certain number of hours for their school, about five hours or four hours a day, or . . .

Prabhupāda: Three hours in the morning, two hours in the evening. That's all. Not at a stretch. Morning, evening. And in the noon they should take their prasādam, take little rest.

Hayagrīva: Because our literatures are a little difficult to read, see they have to . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes. You have to make some suitable literature.

Hayagrīva: Something . . . when they can do that, then they can read Bhagavad-gītā. They try a little, but it's very difficult to begin.

Prabhupāda: No.

Hayagrīva: They cannot begin.

Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) (end)