760405 - Morning Walk - Vrndavana

Morning Walks by Date, 1976

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

760405MW-VRNDAVAN - April 05, 1976 - 20.29 Minutes

Prabhupāda: Vaiṣṇava ācāra. (break) . . . how nice. This kind of building cannot be constructed. It will require crores of money. Yes. (break)

Indian: . . . nobody. Only during the rain . . . (indistinct) . . . somebody would come here, they would stay here for a few, couple of hours, and then go back.

Prabhupāda: The tank is not with water.

Indian: Yes, they used to have water at both sides of the inside. Now, probably, they are short of water or they have switched on to agriculture. . . . (indistinct) . . . so many they used to have flowers and tulasī and all that. Now they have come to agriculture—wheat, barley.

Prabhupāda: Money. Such a nice tank is vacant.

Indian: I remember my young days. People, young boys, they used to come swim here.

Prabhupāda: Oh. (break) Just see. So you may pay them, say, 150, 200 rupees each. Then it will be all maintained, and that much money you can spend.

Indian: And if it's nicely maintained, possibly you can get some return out of it.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That way we shall get fruits and flowers.

Jayādvaita: I was seeing yesterday in Rādhā-Dāmodara Mandira that nothing is nicely maintained except for your rooms.

Prabhupāda: (chuckles) Pehle Rādhā Dāmodara temple me rehte the. (I was staying initially at the Radha Damodar temple.)

Indian: Mere pitaji yahan par principal the retire hue the. (My father was a principal there and he retired there.)

Prabhupāda: Oh.

Indian: Abhi Kanpur University me deputy reigistrar . . . unke saath apke darshan hue the 2-3 baar gaye the Radha Damodar mandir. (Now in Kanpur he is the deputy registrar . . . with him I saw you, went 2 to 3 times to the Radha Damodar temple.)

Prabhupada: Accha? Aap kya kaam karte hain? (Is it? What work do you do?)

Indian: Mai yahan par . . . (I was here . . .) oldest place in Vṛndāvana. I am not even aspirant of religion or psychology, but I am told people are very much interested in Hinduism there.

Prabhupāda: Jaya. Tabiyat theek hai apka? (Is your health okay?) (break)

Gurudāsa: . . . should have a nice path all the way around.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Idhar hi paida hue? to isko kya karte hain aap log? Bhagvan ke mandir me. besan, to humlog ko dijiye na humlog lenge. Jitna sabzi aplog denge humlog le lenge hamara Balram mandir me . . . dijiye aur jo daam he le lijiye. (You were born here? So what do you people do with this? In the temple of God, if He gives it to us, we will take it. How much vegetables you give us we will take in our Balarama temple . . . give us and whatever is the cost taken from us.)

Indian: Raman Reti.

Prabhupāda: Raman Reti. Aur nahi to hamara aadmi aakarke le jayega. han, kya daam hai? Kitna? (Otherwise my man will come and take, what is the price? How much?)

Lokanātha: Abhi le le Prabhupad aapke liye? (Shall we buy now for you Prabhupāda?) We can buy some. We should buy some for you, Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: No, we can buy the whole thing.

Indian: iska kitna hai sab ka? (How much is the cost of all this?)

Seller: Paanch rupaya paanch kilo. (5 rupees, 5 kilos.)

Lokanātha: Paanch kilo? (5 kilos?)

Prabhupāda: Kitna kilo hai? I'm talking with him. Kitna kilo hai? Kya cheez hai isme? Yehi hai, oh eki kism. Bhaut paida hota hai yahan? Paanch kilo ka daam kitna? Paanch rupaya. Ye kitna hai? (to devotees) (You have got the money? How many kilos is this? What is there in this? Oh, the same variety, this grows a lot here? What is the cost for 5 kilos? 5 rupees, what is the weight of this?)

Jayatīrtha: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Usko jo wo loha hai idhar de do. Aur kuch sabzi nahi hota hai? (Give that iron weight. No other vegetables grow here?)

Jaytirtha: Ye kya hai? Accha. (What is this? Okay.)

Prabhupada: Kahan le jayega? (Where will you take it?)

Seller: Delhi.

Prabhupada: Delhi. kya daam hai? Accha bara ana denga. han, nahi. ladki badi hoshiyar. (What is the price? Okay, we will give 12 ana. No, the girl is very clever.) Bolo kitna de. Ab to razi nahi tumhari beti dene ko. Tumhara ladki to razi nahi hai. (laughter) hai tumhara pas . . . to humlog roz ayenge. (Tell us how much we should give. Now your daughter is not ready to sell for this price, she is not ready. (laughter) Do you have . . . so we shall come everyday.) (to Jayatīrtha) So give him two rupees, eight annas. So give him . . . where will you take?

Gurudāsa: Bargain.

Prabhupāda: My father used to do that. He'd go to a vegetable vendor. He has got a big basket, and he'll say, "What do you want for all, the whole basket." So he is ready, because he'll sit down so long, so at very cheap rate he'll give it. And it was not required in the family so much. My mother became very angry, that "You are bringing so many, so much vegetable, it is being spoiled." But he would purchase like that. If you give him in those days fifty rupees to go to the market, he will spend all the money and bring at home. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Aaplog sab kidhar rehte hain? (Where do you all stay?)

Indian: Vrindavan me hi rehte hain. yahan ghoomne aata hai, farm me reh kar jata hai. (We stay in Vṛndāvana. They come here to see places, stay on farms and go back.)

Prabhupada: Accha bageecha hai, isko maintain theek nahi kiya hai. (It is a nice garden, it has not been well maintained.)

Indian: Maintain nahi kiya hai. Jis samay unke malik the, ab to trust bana hua hai. Government paisa bahut seemit deta hai, trust ko koi interest nahi hai. (It is not maintained. When the owner was there, now a trust is formed, the government gives limited funds, the trust does not have any interest.)

Prabhupada: Isme to kum-se-kum bees mali chahiye. (For this you require at least 20 gardeners.)

Indian: Aur ye inka charon ka theka hai, inko theek se naukari bhi nahi padta hai. aur ye hai mali, inka naukari bhi nahi padta hai, inka bal-bachha itna laga rehta hai. idhar pani khara ho gaya hai. Pani ka sabse bada problem hai idhar. khar ho gaya hai zameen mein. Yahan 20 saal pehle pani ka accha sadhan tha, mali vagera bhi the aur kafi phulwari vagera thi. Ab to ye sab bahut ujad ho gaya hai. Nimbu, amarood, kai tarah ke phal bhi aate hain. Par is samay amarood khatam ho chuka hai. Aur wo bhi pura kharcha karte nahin hain ye. Kua hai motor lagi hui hai uska pura intezam wo nahi karte hain. Isse accha intezaam to Bihariji ka bageecha hai. Usme accha hai. unhone usko acchi tarah bana rakha hai. Aur usme jaise uska paidawar bhi wo le lete hain aur phulwari vagera bhi acchi hai udhar. (And these four have been hired, they don't have a proper job also and he is a gardener. No proper job, his children are also into gardening work. Here the water has become hard. There is a very big problem with water here, the ground has become very hard. 20 years ago there was a very good water source, there were gardeners also, and there was a flower garden also. But now it has become very dry. Lemon, guava, and many other varieties of fruits and flowers used to grow but now the guavas are over. And they also don't spend the entire amount. Well is there, the pump is attached, they do not properly organize it. Better than this is the garden of Bihariji, it is nice. He has managed it very well. And he takes the produce from the garden and the flower garden is also nice there.)

Prabhupada: Humlog ke haath me de to humlog . . . kuch to. hum to banane ko razi hain, thoda aap log . . . aisa bageecha, ye bahut sundar bageecha hai. (If you hand it over to us then we . . . are ready to make something. You people . . . this type of garden, this is very beautiful.)

Indian: Aur bhi jagah kahi hai. (There are other plantations also.)

Prabhupada: Kahan hai, aisa bageecha, bada sundar hai. (Where is it? This kind of garden, it is very beautiful.) We are prepared to spend. (break) . . . from saintly person.

Vrajavāsī: Haribol!

Prabhupāda: Haribol. Jaya-ho! Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Vrajavāsī: Jaya Rādhārāṇī ki!

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Aur aap idhar rehte hai kya? Accha, bhajan karte hain? (You are living here? Okay, you do bhajan?)

Vrajavāsī: Haribol!

Prabhupāda: Haribol. Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Vrajavāsī: Haribol. Haribol. Haribol.

Prabhupāda: To utsav hai, aplog ko nimantran hai. (There is a festival, you are all invited.) Oh, when our festival?

Gurudāsa: Sixth, seventh and eighth. Tomorrow, next day and the Rāma-navamī.

Prabhupada: Teen roj hai, aaplog sab mitr ke saath aaiye, aap bhi aaiye maharaj. (The festival is for three days, you all come with your friends, you also come Mahārāja.) (break)

Pañcadraviḍa: In the Bhāgavatam it says that if a person cannot offer a straw mat like that to a saintly person when he visits, he doesn't live in a house . . .

Prabhupāda: But if he hasn't got extra straw, how can he do?

Pañcadraviḍa: He may offer obeisances. If he can't do that, simply cry.

Prabhupāda: Straw? Straw is offered. (walking through a field) Oh, not taken care of.

Pañcadraviḍa: You said if he couldn't . . . if he cannot do that, he does not live in a house, but he lives in a tree full of snakes.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So he has offered seat.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? In the Bhāgavatam it says that although Lord Viṣṇu is the controller of everything, He is particularly in charge with the mode of goodness, and He is associated with maintenance. So is it that in order to maintain something in this material world also, there has to be the touch of the mode of goodness?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

tadā rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ

kāma-lobhādayaś ca ye

ceta etair anāviddhaṁ

sthitaṁ sattve prasīdati

(SB 1.2.19)

When the heart is cleansed of the dirty things, rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ, the modes of rajaḥ and tamaḥ, ignorance and passion, then he is situated in the sattva-guṇa. There are three guṇas. If you become released from the tamo-guṇa and rajo-guṇa, naturally you are situated in the sattva-guṇa. Sthito sattve prasīdati. Tadā rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ kāma-lobhādayaś ca ye, ceta etair anāviddham. When the heart is not attacked by this rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa, then it remains fixed up in sattva-guṇa. Then . . .

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Evaṁ prasanna-manaso?

Prabhupāda: Evaṁ prasanna-manaso bhagavad-bhakti-yogataḥ (SB 1.2.20). Then he becomes prasanna-manasaḥ, happy mood. Then he can cultivate devotional service. Otherwise not possible. Ceta etair anāviddhaṁ sthito sattve prasīdati. Unless one is situated in sattva-guṇa, there is no possibility of peacefulness. Pehle ye sikhaya jata tha ki bhagvan ki kripa se jo kuch mila hai brahman, kshatriya, vaishya, sudra, isi me santosh ho jayiye. Aajkal kya ho gaya, lao paisa. Paisa mile to ek motor kharido, aur mile to char motor kharido aur ek aurat ke liye, ek ladka ke liye dikhao aur ek din maut ata hai laat mar karke le jata hai sab pada rehta hai. (In the old days, it was taught that by God's mercy whatever we have got, brahmin, kshatriya, vaishya, sudra, to be happy with that. Today what has happened is greed for money. You get money then buy a car, more money then buy 4 cars and show off to a lady or the boy. One day death comes and kicks you out and takes away everything, nothing is left.)

Indian: Pehle santosh tha. Ye hi samajhte the jo kuch ishwar ne diya hai humko bahut diya hai isi ke hum kabil tha. (In those days there was happiness. This was the understanding that whatever God has given us, it is more than what we asked for and we are qualified for this much.)

Prabhupada: Jo bhagvan se sampark is tarah se banaye. Ye hamara vedic civilization hai. Ab wo sab to chod-chad diya kewal indriya tripti, sharab piyo, mams khao, randibaji karo. (One who makes a relationship with God. This is our vedic civilization. Now we have left all that and run after sense gratification, drink, eat non-vegetarian, and do promiscuity.) Pura nash kar diya. (Everything is destroyed.)

Indian: Par swamiji iske baavzood bhi abhi zyada tarah sankhya acche logon ki hai par wo kya hai dabi hui hai, wo isme vishwas nahi karte hain. (But Swamiji, in spite of this now most of the population are good people but they are suppressed, they don't believe in this.)

Prabhupada: Koi cheez dabi nahi reh sakti hai. Bhagavad bhakti 'ahaituky apratihata" usko koi daba nahi sakta, iccha nahi hai. Jiska iccha hai usko koi daba nahi sakta hai. Iccha hi hai wo sab nasht ho gaya hai. Aur usi ko humlog thoda jagane ka koshish karte hain. abhi dekhiye Tirupati, Tirumala ka bahut naam hai, usme sab industry laga rahe hain. Wahan jo baal katta hai usko bhi bechta hai. Bedhkarke bhagavad bhakti prachar karna chahiye, nahi electronic. (Nothing can be suppressed. Devotional service "ahaituky aprtihata" no one can suppress it, they have no desire. Those who have desires, no one can suppress them. Desires should be there, but it is lost. And we are trying to awaken that dormant love for God. Now you see in Tirupati, Tirumala is well known; they are putting industries there. Even the hair which is cut is sold, that money can be used for preaching love of Godhead, but electronic.)

Indian: Idhar bhi yehi prayas ho raha hai. Governor gopal reddy jo hain is mandir ka jo bhi hai wo banana cha rahe hain, bar-bar wo aa rahe hain aur kanoon la rahe hain, isi session me aa raha hai. Wo bhi ab isi tarah se kar rahe hain ki Tirumala ke jaisa yahan ka sab gathan ho jaye aur paise ko hum is tarah lagaye. Theek hai inka vichar accha ho sakta hai. (Here also the same effort is going on. Governor Gopal Reddy (Chenna Reddy) wants to make the temple ready, he keeps coming and is bringing out laws which are coming out in this session. He is doing it in such a way just like Tirumala, everything should function here properly and we must utilize the money. It's alright, his ideas might be good.)

Prabhupada: Vichar is liye theek hai wo dekhte hai jo mandir me sab mahant log wohii kaam karte hain, mandir me jis mahant ke pas paisa hai wohi sharab, randi me lagate hain, sab nahi to kuch. to isse accha industry me laga do. Abhi ye sab bade-bade mahant, ye bhautik maya zabardast hai to unko pakad leta hai. (The idea is good because they see that in temples the priests do the same sinful acts. Those who have money they indulge in intoxication, prostitutes—if not everyone at least . . . some of them. So it is better to invest in industries. Now all these big big priests, this material illusion is very forceful and it catches them.) (end)