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720525 - Lecture SB 02.03.08 and Initiation - Los Angeles

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada



720525SB-LOS ANGELES - May 25, 1972 - 26:54 Minutes



Prabhupāda: (prema-dhvani) Thank you very much. (devotees offer obeisances) Hmm. So, where is Pradyumna?

Devotee: He's typing.

Prabhupāda: Why? One śloka. Yes, you can . . . anyone can chant.

(japa) (pause) One verse.

Pradyumna: (leads chanting)

dharmārtha uttama-ślokaṁ
tantuḥ tanvan pitṟn yajet
rakṣā-kāmaḥ puṇya-janān
ojas-kāmo marud-gaṇān
(SB 2.3.8)

Prabhupāda: Where are those books? These small books?

(pause) My spectacle? Nobody's here?

Devotee: . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Where is Nanda-kumāra? Sleeping? As soon as there is opportunity, sleep. (laughter)

(break) (japa)

Nidrāhāra-vihārakādi-vijitau. One has to conquer over sleeping, eating and sense enjoyment. Nidrā, nidrā means sleeping. Āhāra means eating or collecting more. Collecting. Eating, sleeping and vihāra, sense gratification. Vijitau: the Gosvāmīs, they conquered over that.

Śyāmasundara: He said he's making kacaurīs right now.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

rājya-kāmo manūn devān
nirṛtiṁ tv abhicaran yajet
kāma-kāmo yajet som . . .
(SB 2.3.9)

No, not this. (leads chanting) (devotees repeat)

dharmārtha uttama-ślokam
tantuḥ tanvan pitṟn yajet
rakṣā-kāmaḥ puṇya-janān
ojas-kāmo marud-gaṇān
(SB 2.3.8)

Hmm. Repeat, repeat again.

Pradyumna: (leads chanting of śloka) (Prabhupāda and devotees repeat)

dharmārtha uttama-ślokam
tantuḥ tanvan pitṟn yajet
rakṣā-kāmaḥ puṇya-janān
ojas-kāmo marud-gaṇān
(SB 2.3.8)

Prabhupāda: Next, anybody? (devotee chants)

That's all right. So, word meaning?

Pradyumna: dharma-arthaḥ—for spiritual advancement; uttama-ślokam . . . er rājya-kāmaḥ—anyone desiring an empire or a kingdom . . .

Prabhupāda: No . . .

Pradyumna: . . . tantuḥ—for offspring; tanvan—and for their protection; pitṟn—the residents of the Pitṛloka; yajet—must worship; rakṣā-kāmaḥ—one who desires protection; puṇya-janān—pious persons; ojaḥ-kāmaḥ—one who desires strength should worship; marut-gaṇān—the demigods.

Translation: "One should worship Lord Viṣṇu or His devotee for spiritual advancement of knowledge, and for protection of heredity and advancement of the dynasty one should worship the different demigods."

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Other line is not translated? Hmm. Then?

Pradyumna: Purport?

Prabhupāda: Hm.

Pradyumna: Purport: "The path of religion entails making progress on the path of spiritual advancement, ultimately reviving the eternal relation with Lord Viṣṇu in His impersonal effulgence, localized Paramātmā feature and, ultimately, in His personal feature by spiritual advancement of knowledge. And one who wants to establish a good dynasty and be happy in the progress of temporary bodily relations should take shelter of the pitās and the demigods in other pious planets. Such different classes of worshipers of different demigods may ultimately reach the respective planets within the universe, but he who reaches the spiritual planets in the brahma-jyotir achieves the highest perfection."

Prabhupāda: That's all right. So, now . . . (devotees chant japa) (break)

Devotee: (indistinct) . . . water . . . (indistinct) . . . after every mantra I will chant oṁ apavitraḥ. (leads devotees in chanting)

oṁ apavitraḥ pavitro vā
sarvāvasthāṁ gato 'pi vā
yaḥ smaret puṇḍarīkākṣaṁ
sa bahyābhyantara-śuciḥ
śrī-viṣṇu śrī-viṣṇu śrī-viṣṇu
(Garuḍa Purāṇa)

Prabhupāda: The word is abhyantaram. The word is abhyantara. Abhyantara means inside. (japa)

Devotee: (leads devotees in chanting)

oṁ apavitraḥ pavitro vā
sarvāvasthāṁ gato 'pi vā
yaḥ smaret puṇḍarīkākṣaṁ
sa bahyābhyantara . . .

Prabhupāda: abhyantaram.

Devotee:

śuciḥ
śrī-viṣṇu śrī-viṣṇu śrī-viṣṇu
oṁ apavitraḥ pavitro vā
sarvāvasthāṁ gato 'pi vā
yaḥ smaret puṇḍarīkākṣaṁ
sa bahyābhyantara-śuciḥ
śrī-viṣṇu śrī-viṣṇu śrī-viṣṇu

Prabhupāda: Name . . . (indistinct) . . . name? Let me know. (japa) How many?

Śyāmasundara: Eight.

Prabhupāda: Heh?

Śyāmasundara: Eight.

Prabhupāda: Eight. What are the names? (japa)

Jayathirtha: You want them to put on the neckbeads?

Prabhupāda: Huh? Yes. Yes. (japa)

Śyāmasundara: Leonard? Leonard?

Devotee: He's still tying his neckbeads.

Śyāmasundara: Oh. Lāl Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Śyāmasundara: Lāl Kṛṣṇa. Lāl Kṛṣṇa Dāsa.

Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct)

Śyāmasundara: Lāl. L-a-l.

Prabhupāda: Lāla-kṛṣṇa. (japa) Where you found this name?

Śyāmasundara: There is a list of names.

Prabhupāda: So you know the rules and regulation? The regulation?

Leonard: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: So your name is Lāla-kṛṣṇa.

Lāla-kṛṣṇa: Bāla-kṛṣṇa?

Prabhupāda: Lāla. Or Bāla-kṛṣṇa? Lāla-kṛṣṇa is name. You can give them. Next.

Śyāmasundara: Roger?

Prabhupāda: What is the name?

Śyāmasundara: Raghu-nandana. Raghu-nandana.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. You know the rules and regulations? What are they?

Roger: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling and no illicit sex.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. How many rounds will you chant?

Roger: Sixteen rounds a day.

Prabhupāda: Minimum, Minimum. So your name is Raghu-nandana Dāsa. Raghu-nandana is Lord Rāmacandra's another name.

Śyāmasundara: Cassandria?

Prabhupāda: What is her name?

Śyāmasundara: Kasama-pida Dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Śyāmasundara: Kasama-pida Dāsī?

Prabhupāda: Kusuma.

Śyāmasundara: Kusuma-pida Dāsī. Kusuma-pida Dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Kusuma. So you know the rules and regulation?

Cassandria: . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: So your name is Kusuma-priyā. Kusuma-priyā, "the best of the flowers."

Śyāmasundara: What is that . . . Pam?

Prabhupāda: What is that?

Śyāmasundara: Pāṇḍarāṇī Dāsī. Pāṇḍarāṇī

Prabhupāda: Pāṇḍurāṇī?

Śyāmasundara: Pāṇḍurāṇī.

Prabhupāda: So, what are the rules?

Pam: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling.

Prabhupāda: How many rounds you shall chant?

Pam: Sixteen.

Prabhupāda: So your name is Pāṇḍurāṇī, "Queen of the Pāṇḍus." That means Draupadī.

Śyāmasundara: John?

Prabhupāda: So Draupadī had five husbands. (laughter)

Śyāmasundara: (to Prabhupāda) Dharma-kṣetra Dāsa.

Prabhupāda: What are the rules?

John: No eating of meat, fish or eggs, no gambling, no intoxication and no illicit sex.

Prabhupāda: Dharma-kṣetra Dāsa. Dharma-kṣetre kuru-kṣetre samavetā yuyutsavaḥ (BG 1.1). Dharma-kṣetra, "the field of religious activities." Next.

Śyāmasundara: Patricia. Pātrī.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Śyāmasundara: Pātrī Dāsī. Pātrī. Pātrī Dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Pātrī. Pātrī. What are the rules?

Patricia: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling or speculation, and no illicit sex life.

Prabhupāda: Thank you. So your name is Pātrī Dāsī. Su-pātrī. Pātrī means a good reservoir. Everything good is there.

Śyāmasundara: Mary? Mañjanālī? Mañjanālī?

Prabhupāda: Mañj . . .?

Devotee: One of the principal gopīs.

Prabhupāda: Mañjuālī. So, what are the rules?

Mary: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no gambling and no intoxicants.

Prabhupāda: Thank you. So, Mañjuālī. Your name is Mañjuālī, one of the gopīs. Thank you. There is another. Come on. Next.

Śyāmasundara: Pārvatī Dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Pārvatī. So what are the rules?

Pārvatī: No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling and no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So your name is Pārvatī. Pārvatī, the daughter of Himalaya and wife of Lord Śiva. Hare Kṛṣṇa. So?

Devotees: All glories to His Divine Grace Śrīla Prabhupāda (devotees offer obeisances)

Prabhupāda: Jaya. (end)