740328 - Morning Walk - Bombay
Prabhupāda: . . . incidences are so described that anyone can remember. And by remembering these incidences, he becomes liberated. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Indian man: One thing I want to know, you see, when He was Supreme God, why He created all these līlās? When . . . suppose He was sent . . .
Prabhupāda: What do you mean by Supreme God?
Indian man: Er, He was the Lord of universe. All the . . .
Prabhupāda: So He cannot do that?
Indian man: No, He can do it.
Indian man: That is . . . so He has done. But as He sent Uddhava to Vṛndāvana to know about condition of Vṛndāvana people, even He was God, He knew it, no?
Prabhupāda: No, that is affection.
Indian man: Hmm?
Prabhupāda: That is affection. Just like you go to your friend, you know what he is, still you ask, "How are, you are?"
Indian man: Yes.
Prabhupāda: This is natural.
Indian man: Then he'll answer. Very affection
Indian man: But He had also . . . when He was God, why He had some affection also like that?
Prabhupāda: Oh, that you must know.
Indian man: Māyā . . . I, I, I say to māyā.
Prabhupāda: No, it is not. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā mean affection also. Māyā has got the meaning of affection. Māyā means illusion; māyā means energy; māyā means affection. Just like we say māyā . . . chele rupar māyā. That is affection.
Indian man: (Hindi) affection.
Prabhupāda: So māyā means affection.
Indian man: But when He was born, why should He have māyā? When He is the Supreme God, (Hindi)?
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Can you control God? By your wording, He'll not be affected by māyā.
Indian man: No, that means I have . . .
Prabhupāda: That is God. That is God. He can do anything. He is not under your rules and regulation. Māyā . . . māyā . . . māyā means . . . māyā means . . . māyā mukta (Cc Madhya 24.136) means the illusion. When the māyā is illusion, you have to get you out it. But when the . . .
Indian man: But what is the differnce between the illusion and māyā?
Prabhupāda: Illusion is forced. But affection is not forced. When father loves child, that is not forced; that is reality. (break) (end)