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751000 - Conversation - Mauritius

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Mauritius - October, 1975



751000R1-MAURITIUS - October ??, 1975



Prabhupāda: He is greater than the greatest and smaller than the smallest. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūteṣu . . . arjuna tiṣṭhati (BG 18.65). You'll find at night a small insect, He has got all the . . . anatomical . . . framework . . . small . . . (indistinct) . . . aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara . . . (Brahma-saṁhitā 5.35) Kṛṣṇa is within the atom, that is Kṛṣṇa.

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Knowledge, philosophy, logic you want to study Kṛṣṇa? So many books. You cannot finish even in your life. We have got already published 60 books.

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Brahman and Parabrahman, Kṛṣṇa is Parabrahman . . . (indistinct) . . . Brahman. We are all brahman. But Kṛṣṇa is Parabrahman.

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Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Purport ". . . but my opinion is that where Kṛṣṇa and Arjuna are present, there will be all good fortune."

Prabhupāda: He directly confirmed that Dhṛtarāṣṭra could not expect victory for his side. Victory was certain for the side of Arjuna because Kṛṣṇa was there. Kṛṣṇa's acceptance of the post of charioteer for Arjuna was an exhibition of another opulence. Kṛṣṇa is full of all opulences, and renunciation is one of them. There are many instances of such renunciation, for Kṛṣṇa is also the master of renunciation.

The fight was actually between Duryodhana and Yudhiṣṭhira. Arjuna was fighting on behalf of his elder brother, Yudhiṣṭhira. Because Kṛṣṇa and Arjuna were on the side of Yudhiṣṭhira, Yudhiṣṭhira's victory was certain. The battle was to decide who would rule the world, and Sañjaya predicted that the power would be transferred to Yudhiṣṭhira. It is also predicted here that Yudhiṣṭhira, after gaining victory in this battle, would flourish more and more because not only was he righteous and pious but he was also a strict moralist. He never spoke a lie during his life.

There are many less intelligent persons who take Bhagavad-gītā to be a discussion of topics between two friends on a battlefield. But such a book cannot be scripture. Some may protest that Kṛṣṇa incited Arjuna to fight, which is immoral, but the reality of the situation is clearly stated: Bhagavad-gītā is the supreme instruction in morality. The supreme instruction of morality is stated in the Ninth Chapter 34th verse: man-manā bhava mad-bhaktaḥ. One must become a devotee of Kṛṣṇa, and the essence of all religion is to surrender unto Kṛṣṇa, as stated, sarva-dharmān. The instructions of Bhagavad-gītā constitute the supreme process of religion and of morality. All other processes may be purifying and may lead to this process, but the last instruction of the Gītā is the last word in all morality and religion: surrender unto Kṛṣṇa. This is the verdict of the Eighteenth Chapter.

From the Bhagavad-gītā we can understand that to realize oneself by philosophical speculation and by meditation is one process, but to fully surrender unto Kṛṣṇa is the highest perfection. This is the essence of the teachings of Bhagavad-gītā. The path of regulative principles according to the orders of social life and according to the different courses of religion may be a confidential path of knowledge in as far as the rituals of religion are confidential, but one is still involved with meditation and cultivation of knowledge. Surrender unto Kṛṣṇa in devotional service in full Kṛṣṇa consciousness is the most confidential instruction and is the essence of the Eighteenth Chapter (BG 18.78, purport). (end)